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'Failure in Silicon Valley is not a unique event'
20 June, 2001: Kailash Joshi, president, The Indus Entrepreneurs, spoke lucidly about how TiE is helping entrepreners. He urged others to pitch in to become mentors and insisted that it was 'a rich man's club' as many believed.
Mr. Kailash Joshi : Folks, Welcome. I am ready to
talk.
jim : I have an idea for a great networkingchip. Whom
should I talk to? Mr. Kailash Joshi : If you're in Silicon
Valley, you may want to ask for one-hour of mentoring time by calling the TiE
office. That will lead you to the right person.
xyz : Kailashji namaste Mr. Kailash
Joshi : namaste to you. your question? Hope you are well.
xyz : How did u arrive at the people who will speak in the
conference Mr. Kailash Joshi : we started with the most
desired names, by topic, and then worked our way through the list. we were
fortunate that in most cases our first choices worked out.
Sachin : Hello Kailashji..What you think of the prospects
of MEMS Mr. Kailash Joshi : From the little I know, this
area represents vast opportunities in the device area. I believe
cost-competitiveness and continued innovation are the two critical success
factors in this domain.
xyz : What is the fees for the conference Mr.
Kailash Joshi : $395 for the conference and $115 for the Saturday
banquet.
Sachin : Is the one hour of mentoring time available for a
fee or for free? Mr. Kailash Joshi : Free. We have now made
it free and quite flexible - in that one can ask for a session, say in career
counseling, not just entrepreneurship alone.
jim : Namste Kailashji, Thank you for answering my
firstquestion.I am in India, Do you have any plansfor people in India.Thanks
again. Mr. Kailash Joshi : As you might know, we have 9
chapters - visit www.tie.org - we are encouraging these chapters to have similar
mentoring and monthly event schedule. We are also sending speakers to those
chapters from time to time.
Sachin : From your personal experience, would you
recommend that one should go in for a PhD or an MBA after an M.S with the aim of
becoming an enterpreneur. Mr. Kailash Joshi : I would say
this is a very personal matter. If you are an innovator, then a Ph.D. degree
will sharpen your knowledge and analytical base. If you're an organizer and
management type, then the MBA will add to your edge.
Sachin : May I ask about your educational and professional
background? Mr. Kailash Joshi : I have degrees in physics
from Agra U, BE degree from IISc in Bangalore, MS from Washington State
University and PhD from Cornell. I spent one year on Cornell faculty. I had 25
years of experience with IBM where I managed a division which is now called
Lexmark. I have been in Silicon Valley since 1992, involved in several startups.
I now spend my time between TiE and AIF, the new foundation.
sroy : hi mr joshicould you tell us about the mentoring
plans that you have put in place at tie.for young startups trying to break into
the market with their product. Mr. Kailash Joshi : Our
mentoring program is generic and you should be able to discuss any topic of
professional interest to you. Once your first session is held, you can request
the mentor to direct you to the next person who may be more suited to guide you
in your specific area.
Sachin : Dont you think that the membership fee for
students is a little on the higher side, given the fact that even after becoming
members , students have to pay for most networking events. Mr. Kailash
Joshi : Frankly, our primary focus has been the population of
professionals and entrepreneurs - and not students. That said, we are looking at
reducing the entrance fees for everyone. I will also propose to the team to look
more favorably at the students.
tata : Mr Joshi, do you still expect Sabeer Bhatia to
attend the conference after what happened to his firm today? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : I am hoping to see Sabeer. Failure in Silicon Valley is
not a unique event. Entrepreneurs try multiple times and as long as there are
more and bigger successes than failures, things are on the up. I am not quite
sure about his participation in his session, however.
sroy : with the downturn in the US economy, do you think
US companies are more likely to outsource work to india and china etc. if you
look at any consumer product today, most likely it has been made in china. so i
think there is a strong for such companies to thrive. of course, they should
aspire to set quality standards. Mr. Kailash Joshi : I
strongly agree with your proposition. In the 1970's, hardware businesses
migrated to the Far East and have mostly stayed there. I believe in this cycle
competent transfer of software, businesses will happen and India can gain a
great deal of foothold as well as other countries like China and Russia. The
quality cost and on time delivery will be the determining factors.
vijay : Kailash, does the TIE mentor raw entrepreneurs
with not too suave personalities? Mr. Kailash Joshi : yes.
We want to make mentoring as a natural process for everyone who wishes to
reflect different thoughts and ideas. If you would like, ask for me in
particular for your first mentoring session - and we will see how it works out.
sroy : i was waiting for your response on greater
outsourcing under the current US situation Mr. Kailash
Joshi : you got it!
sroy : how is the response to tie-con this year. Mr.
Kailash Joshi : We are delighted with the response despite the
difficulties in the marketplace. We will exceed last year's attendance, double
the companies in the showcase, have a very similar number of sponsors as last
year and to top it off, have a great evening of entertainment on Saturday. Hope
we will see you there.
vijay : Kailash, could you tell us your experience in
starting a new company, the final factor that made you leave your full time
job? Mr. Kailash Joshi : My leaving IBM on an
early-retirement at age 50 had to do with wanting to try the small company
experience and Silicon Valley. I did not leave to start a company. As far as
startup process is concerned, it is very difficult where things fluctuate from
day to day. However when success comes, the joy and the fruits seem to be worth
all the efforts and pain.
iamabhijit : hello sir, my question to you is , Dont you
think that there is also a little hype to the US economy downturn? Mr.
Kailash Joshi : My personal belief is that there is a sizable
overreaction this time. It is not unnatural as there was overreaction to the
opportunities in recent years.
sroy : a lot of indian companies are trying to market
their products or services in the US. IT and non IT companies like engineering
companies.they cannot afford to set up a marketing office along with the
necessary infrastructure at first shot. there appears to be no such incubator
marketing companies for them. they do not have a clue as to what is done as best
practice in this country and how to develop contacts. Mr. Kailash
Joshi : You are right. I have seen a lot of frustrated
businesspeople from India who have the capacity and talent and are not able to
penetrate the US market. Since US market success is a key part of the success of
hi-tech companies anywhere there may be an opportunity for an innovative,
profit-sharing concept for someone in the US to address the need.
tantralogician : Dr. Joshi, although TiEcon has its theme
as "Back to Basics" there is no mention whatsoever about the basics in your
agenda. Shouldn'tyou talk about the keyword in your theme title? Mr.
Kailash Joshi : Well we thought the word basic implies proven
recipies such as revenues, profits, management experience, etc. I believe most
people would realize what the short title implies.
vijay : Kailash, what differentiates an Entrepreneur from
a Dreamer? Mr. Kailash Joshi : I think there is a fine line
- an entrepreneur has great listening skills and is willing to give it all. The
dreamer may not share these two attributes to the extent needed.
vijaytwo : Hi Kailash, this is vijay again. Is there a lot
of Stratification in who mentors whom? I really liked your answer - the
listening part Mr. Kailash Joshi : There is no
stratification, as far as I have seen. What seems to happen that the
mentor-mentee relationship strikes a level of common interest and may lead to a
longer lasting relationship.
Sachin : This may seem inappropriate for this forum, but
it is generally seen that Indians in the US also group along linguistic lines.
While that may be only natural, is that also reflected in the mentorship
programs of TiE. That is some from karnataka being a mentor to a fellow
kannadiga and so on? Because that is the general trend that I have seen in the
US so far. Mr. Kailash Joshi : I think we have a mix. The
language facility does tend to gravitate people from their own region. However,
I can give you my own example where I have had the pleasure of meeting young
entrepreneurs from all parts of India and several other countries.
enterpreneuer : What has TIE done to help indians on H1
who are out of a job now? Mr. Kailash Joshi : This is an
unfortunate situation for which not many people have been prepared. TiE does not
have a provision of locating jobs, etc. But we have realized that the H1 process
needs to be significantly enhanced in favor of the recipient of the visa. Kanwal
Rekhi has taken the lead in working with the legislative changes and I also
intend to lend my support.
vijaytwo : How different is the TIE-con from the
Garage.com boot camp? Mr. Kailash Joshi : the basic
difference is in the fact that we are trying to accomplish several tasks which
range from networking to startup companies and a vision of the future.
tantralogician : Enterpreneuer, how can you expect thePrez
of TiE to admit to infighting?Any place you have a bunch of humans interacting
there is bound to be politics.TiE is no exception. My own guess is that petty
diviseness is not yet an issue with TiE. But give the fellows alittle time, will
you? They havejust started. Mr. Kailash Joshi : A little bit
of this in good humor is okay.
vijaytwo : Do you Believe in the fact that the downturn is
the best time to start a company? Mr. Kailash Joshi : The
answer could be yes if you have an idea with ready customers. Funding is waiting
on the sidelines and a talent pool of extraordinary abilities is itching to jump
in. I would recommend a heavy dose of personal due diligence before presenting
the opportunity to potential investors.
Administrator : Folks, mind your language or else you will
be thrown out. Ask our guest some questions and do not carry out your private
discussions with other chat members.
tantralogician : Dear Dr. Joshi, you didn't answer
this:whose idea was it to bring Bali Brahmbhattto the TiE cultural evening? Is
thisthe level of culture among TiE members? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : What's the problem? You don't like "Kem Cho"? What about
some ethnic humor? I think this is a great new experiment for us.
vijaytwo : what is the approximate ratio of Potential
Mentors to budding Entrepreneurs? Mr. Kailash Joshi : Right
now, we have about 15 charter members and nearly 100 slots open for mentoring in
the next 30 days. So we don't look at ratios but focus on meeting the need.
enterpreneuer : Did TIE contribute to the earthquake
victims of Gujarat or did they just pay lip service? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : You will be pleased to note that TiE has affected
significant funding through the UCA and AIF channels and have helped with the
launch of several undertakings in healthcare and home building. We have also
sent our first batch of US volunteers to serve Gujarat last week. You can visit
www.aifoundation.org for more information.
tantralogician : I also commend Dr. Joshi for being
gracious in theface of criticism leveled against TiE. Criticism isan important
part of the process of growingup. Mr. Kailash Joshi : You
are being very kind. The fun goes up when you have some exciting discussions and
a little humor and some teasing.
krishna : What is TiE's role in AIF? There is a saying
among Indian comunity that it's a richman's club? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : AIF is an entirely independent entity even though several
TiE charter members are the co-founders. I am currently serving as the acting
CEO and working with over 30 volunteers in launching India programs. I welcome
everyone who beleives in helping others to seriously consider joining in. The
value of volunteers is beyond any millions of dollars.
AshishB : do u think,it is a good time to go back to
school? Mr. Kailash Joshi : Yeah. Going back to school is
always a good idea. Even at my age I have a strong desire to give some of my
time to teaching in the US and India.
tantralogician : Dr. Joshi, as for the earthquake
contributions, your fundraiser in San Jose was a disaster.It only served to
further the cause of the missionaries. But my question is, did theex-Prez Kanwal
Rekhi attend and if he did, did he shake a leg at MC Hammer's music, and if he
did do we have it on video? Mr. Kailash Joshi : Kanwal is a
major contributor to several humanitarian efforts and he was there. I think he
can dance and he's a great sport in group situations.
vijaytwo : Would you be open to a non-Tie related
mentoring group via email? Mr. Kailash Joshi : My primary
problem is time availability. If this is a limited amount of time on a subject
that resonates between participants, then I will consider it.
krishna : What is the key in starting a new company.an
exit strategy or running it for generation to come. I'm asking this in the wake
of companies like Arzoo is closing the shop? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : I think thinking of exit strategy at the start is a bad
way to enter entrepreneurship. Creating a sustainable entreprise has to be the
sharp focus and the longevity and exit strategies will unfold from there.
krishna : Sabeer Bhatia is also among the speakers in
Tiecon 2001. What we should expect from him Mr. Kailash
Joshi : Sabeer was invited to participate in a panel where the
environments of past would be compared with what is going on today. I am sure if
he participates, he will be quite forthright about the difficulties in making
Arzoo happen in these times.
krishna : There has been much controvery in Tie opening
office in Pakistan? what more plans you have for South Asia? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : I must say the Pakistan chapters are doing very well. We
also have chapters in Singapore and Dubai. Theere are several new chapters
underway in India and possibly one in Dhaka. One of the biggest impacts TiE is
having is in the area of government economic policy changes relative to taxes,
telecom, privatization and we are very pleased.
tantralogician : Dr. Joshi, from what I have read and
seen, TiE focusses almost exclusively on the success stories. We never get to
hearof the (many more) failures, whose lives have been reduced to rubble. What
are you going to do about this? Or does TiE subscribe to only the "winners take
all" ethic? Mr. Kailash Joshi : I would say TiE has to
become more reflective about successes and failures. Remember failures often
teach us more than successes do.
vijaytwo : Why do companies totally close shop, instead of
outsourcing their product maintenance overseas in India to reduce their burn
rate and buy time till the market improves? e.g. Arzoo? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : The primary reason is $$. When the company's board
concludes that there is no viable way of keeping the business alive for any
significant length of time (through any means), they dissolve or declare
bankruptcy.
sidn : Hello. I am a friend of Naresh Belwal. He speaks
very highly 0f you Mr. Kailash Joshi : Give Naresh my hello.
He's a dynamic and bright individual.
vijaytwo : Why cant we have something similar to an
incubator - a "sustainer" in india to maintain code and be an umbrella for
companies who wish to reduce their burn rate Mr. Kailash
Joshi : May be it's an idea worth looking at.
krishna : Mr Joshi. how many people are likely to attend
TiCon 2001. what's market feedback you have recieved as just a day is left for
the great event? Is it sold out already? Mr. Kailash
Joshi : We expect over 2,100 people. Market feedback is very
positive because there will be great value exchanged among the attendees. The
banquet is sold-out but the conference is still open.
tantralogician : Dr. Joshi, I've gotta go. Hopefully one
of these days we shall meet for lunch or dinner. I hope this chat transcript
will be posted on the TiE website. Who knows, posterity might look upon it as
the fifth Veda.Good luck! Mr. Kailash Joshi : Thanks and
best wishes.
Mr. Kailash Joshi : Thank you all for chatting. To
register for TiEcon please visit our Web site or the Rediff homepage.
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